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Umm Why does Idoser sell two different doses for the same drug?
Yaba,Crystalmeth,White cross - all names for methamphetamine.
Acid , LSD - Acid is a nickname for LSD.
Speed,Dexies-Yeah.. Same substance.
!Rave! , ecstacy - rave drug = ecstacy and even says at the end of the rave dose "ecstacy finally!"

Why do they do this???? do they have slightly different things? Please help!

Also why is DMT in the perscription area? Its the strongest phsycedelic known to man.

First off, LSD and Acid are different drugs. You do almost get the same high but they are made completely different. LSD is made with less household cleaner type chemicals.

Yaba and crystal meth are different as, meth has different highs on the way you take it. Plus Yaba doesn't have a ton on meth in it. It is a mix of caffeine and methamphetamine so basically your just taking a very strong adderall with yaba. White Crosses is just the name of the dose its pretty different from Yaba or crystal meth.

Yes speed and dexies are the same but the doses are different. I haven't done them a whole lot (the doses) but I know they are not the same.

Rave and ecstasy are different rave is more like being on ecstasy at a rave, and ecstasy is more just like an ecstasy body high.

I don't know why DMT is in the prescription genre they should change that. I am glad you pointed that out.

I thought tabernanthe iboga was the strongest hallucinogen known to man, but you could be right. I have never been able to try either one. I don't know if I would do iboga but I would love to try DMT.

DMT is. Its an amazing substance. I ordered some of the internet (ayahuasca).

whenwillitend wrote:First off, LSD and Acid are different drugs. You do almost get the same high but they are made completely different. LSD is made with less household cleaner type chemicals.

Acid is a street name for LSD. Where in the world did you get that info from?

Acid is not made the same way. LSD is made from ergot. Acid isn't. You also have 2-cb and 2-ci and all those weird names that are made like acid but they are all made a different way thats why the name changes.

whenwillitend wrote:Acid is not made the same way. LSD is made from ergot. Acid isn't. You also have 2-cb and 2-ci and all those weird names that are made like acid but they are all made a different way thats why the name changes.

Exactly, or it's DBE and all those other research chemicals like 5-MeO which is a hullucinagenic amphetamine in a liquid form.

LSD is the most amazing substance you can have, "Acid" is what made me stop doing blotter, because people would call it LSD and then I would feel uncomfortable, and irritated, while LSD always gave me the most peaceful/connected to the world/help everyone feeling.

Can't gamble with my mind like that, oh and Acid has a HANGOVER like A MOTHERFUCKA, lmfao...LSD barely does.

LSD is a VERY rare substance, because United States banned certain chemicals that make LSD, so it's twice as hard to make it.

whenwillitend wrote:Acid is not made the same way. LSD is made from ergot. Acid isn't. You also have 2-cb and 2-ci and all those weird names that are made like acid but they are all made a different way thats why the name changes.

No LSD is NOT made from ergot. It is made from the lsa on the seeds. The actual ergot could very much most likely kill you or harm you. (It makes your veigns open up). LSD is made with any lysergic acid amide and lysergic acid. NOT the actual ergot. You would extract the lsa from the seeds.Ergotamine are different things.So no. It does not have to be made with ergot. Acid is another name for it. They are not differently made. It is another name for it. I did a little searching.

True LSD-25 (Lysergic Acid Diethylamide the 25th lysergic acid derivative) is made with ergot!!! LSA is what is in morning glory seeds! You don't have to make it from ergot but then its not True LSD! Believe me I know this I have done "Acid and LSD" enough times I have done my research. Now You could possibly be right but then millions of websites and a few books are wrong.

It is true that I am not THAT knowledgeable in hallucinogens but when it comes to pills I know my shit! I have actually read through a PRD (Physicians Desk Reference) of course skipping throught the boring shit that does not matter like cialis and all that but if you have questions about pills hit me up!

So with that knowledge out of the way I'm trying to say I know how to do my research and I know how to read. True, late, 1960's LSD was made with ergot. And yes, LSA can be made with ergot as well but the process requires to much knowledge for most people so when you get what a lot of people call "LSD" or "acid" its really made with LSA from morning glory seeds but thats really only if you get it in gel caps. Now when you get blotter or vile acid its usually not LSD its acid a different derivative of Lysergic Acid.

Ergot is a fungus that grows or wheat usually rye wheat. Yes, you are right if you were to ingest a gram of straight ergot you get fucked up in a very bad way and most likely die, but if you were to ingest about a 16th of a gram you would get pretty fucked up and see some crazy shit but still might end up in a hospital bed by the end of the night.

If you really did a little bit of searching you would have found this most likely first; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid "Lysergic acid, also known as D-lysergic acid and (+)-lysergic acid, is a precursor for a wide range of ergoline alkaloids that are produced by the ergot fungus and some plants. Amides of lysergic acid, lysergamides, are widely used as pharmaceuticals and as psychedelic drugs (LSD)." Yes I know Wikipedia isn't always right but they are, for the most part, right about this.

So quit be a smug fuck, and arguing with me about this, and do a little bit of research. PEACE!

whenwillitend wrote: So quit be a smug fuck, and arguing with me about this, and do a little bit of research. PEACE!

Were having a casual disagreement. You dont have to be a cock about it.
But Ive looked on tons of websites and they all say its a slang name for it.

If you say acids made in a different way its still fucking LSD made in another way.

I'm not saying they are not basically the same thing. I'm just saying they are made different. And yes now days acid is a "slang" term for LSD but its not true LSD-25.

Sorry that I was a dick about it. I just got all heated up after typing that huge post. Sorry.

I guess you could say we are both right. I am speaking of original old LSD and you are speaking of new LSD, and we are arguing over what Idoser classifies them as, and they would probably be basing it around new LSD. I was just trying to tell you that there is a difference between original LSD and acid and maybe why they have 2 different doses for them, but yes now days they are the same, but back in the sixties they were slightly different, but they did and still do have the same effects they are just made slightly different.

But seriously I do know a SHIT TON about pills. Thats really my topic of interest.

whenwillitend wrote:First off, LSD and Acid are different drugs. You do almost get the same high but they are made completely different. LSD is made with less household cleaner type chemicals.

But I did say here that they are made completely different which is wrong. Sorry.

whenwillitend wrote:

whenwillitend wrote:First off, LSD and Acid are different drugs. You do almost get the same high but they are made completely different. LSD is made with less household cleaner type chemicals.

But I did say here that they are made completely different which is wrong. Sorry.

Aight aight. Ill apologize to. I was kinda a dick. Sorry We cool?

Wurd!

All smug fucking cocks aside, they are not the same product because they aren't the actual product you are comparing. It's simple and not something to be cock smuggling about.
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