Sleep Dosing?

[miling301]

So I've been doing a lot of thinking about all the different types of I-dosing and ways to try it, the effects, etc. I personally have not been I-dosing for a long time, but long enough to know and understand the effects of the different doses. I recently bought the pure pack and was reading the descriptions when something caught my eye. Delta waves are naturally produced by the brain during deep sleep. So my theory is, what if one set up a playlist of doses, beginning with a good sleeping one, such as sleeping angel or insomnia, which then yields to delta. Being asleep and perfectly relaxed, hypothetically your brain should accept the delta waves and make them your own, putting you and keeping you in a deep sleep, longer than you usually would under normal sleep, letting you get better sleep since deep sleep is so important. Assuming the test works, which for all I know could be a complete bust, REM sleep would be necessary as well. As of now, I am at a loss for a dose to put you there. So as it stands, my test is currently sleeping angel followed by back-to-back delta doses, then nothing to allow my body to naturally go into REM.. Any thoughts/insight/comments from anyone?

[Tombstoner]

Delta waves also indicate unusual (generally negative) activity and tumors, IIRC. Just because they're made in deep sleep doesn't mean you can't entrain your brain to them while remaining awake. If you just want to sleep then the opiates rarely fail for me, but I believe there are doses that do exactly what you describe (Insomniac anyone?)
Maybe I'm missing the point of your post, but I'm pretty sure, well, it's been done.

[miling301]

Delta waves also indicate unusual (generally negative) activity and tumors, IIRC. Just because they're made in deep sleep doesn't mean you can't entrain your brain to them while remaining awake. If you just want to sleep then the opiates rarely fail for me, but I believe there are doses that do exactly what you describe (Insomniac anyone?)
Maybe I'm missing the point of your post, but I'm pretty sure, well, it's been done.

Yes, insomnia much for myself.. I guess what I am wondering is about playing the tones while you sleep, keeping your mind in delta wave phase while you sleep, preventing you from going through the normal sleep cycle and stay in deep sleep, not wasting time with shallow sleep that does not aid much in sleep recovery.

[Olympus_Aero]

I tried this last night, went into a deep sleep, woke up 4 hours later wide awake (I had 6 deltas and a memory+ as my looping playlist to hit 8 hours) tried to go back to sleep but when my alarm went off 8ish hours after I went to bed, I actually felt a little depressed, really tired, and like I didn't want to get out of bed...

[miling301]

@Olympus_Aero yah, I've been having similar problems. I get to sleep quickly, but can't seem to stay up. Don't know a way around it, so it's looking like engineering sleep is itself, just a dream.

[Olympus_Aero]

I wonder... If an average sleep cycle is 90 minutes long, if there was an 90 minute long I-Dose "Sleep Cycle" we could probably have that looping. If they collected the brain waves from people as they were in the different stages of sleep, they could probably create one with a prolonged REM cycle paired with lucid dream... Imagine the ability to FORCE lucid dreams by using controlled sleep cycles...

[miling301]

Yah, the problem is that REM resembles alpha waves during the awake state. I fear that it would just wake you up. It would have to be a specific designed dose, I don't think you can engineer it simply looping delta and alpha waves. It would be interesting to see if they could come up with something tho.