Binaural Forum

Ness wrote:Theres little information about these people for a good reason. Can you imagine how unpopular they would be if they went public. They allow hundreds, maybe thousands of people to get high legally. Not to mention the illegality of their marketing concept. It is illegal in the US to market a product as a street drug alternative, making pretty much their entire store illegal. Sooo, yeah. That's why they're anonymous.

I find that whole post to be complete bs. This is not illegal at all. Just because this is being advertised as giving the same feeling as substances that are illegal in the US does not make it illegal. I feel like if these doses do what they are advertised to do (which they appear to do after reading many posts here) then the creators should come public. This technology has the potential to save thousands of people and families that are currenty experiencing the negative effects of real narcotics. These doses could be used to help people beat their addicitons.

What I find even more annoying is that my post was completely ignored by the the individual with the handle of idoser. It was my understanding that this was someone that represented the company but maybe I am mistaken. If they do in fact represent the company I wish they would have responded to my post instead of just a random person (no offense Ness) defending a company which, in my opinion, is creating and doing something great.

I do not mean to come across as an i-doser basher. If I have, I apologize. I think the product is great, even though I am still trying to get it to work. It's just from my experience a company should not ignore questions they find uncomfortable, but answer them to the best of their ability in order to have the public keep a positive opinion of the company.

has anyone heard of that energy drink, cocaine? they were going to try and expand their market past california, and although i don't know all the details i know that they have to change their name because it "promotes drug use". people are paranoid of any kind of drug-related items (even if there could be helpful uses) and mabe i-doser is scared of being taken down for the same reason

Couch wrote:has anyone heard of that energy drink, cocaine? they were going to try and expand their market past california, and although i don't know all the details i know that they have to change their name because it "promotes drug use". people are paranoid of any kind of drug-related items (even if there could be helpful uses) and mabe i-doser is scared of being taken down for the same reason

That is very true. Oh and yeah I have heard of that cocaine drink. We bought some near my school in PA.

mikb261 wrote:

Ness wrote:Theres little information about these people for a good reason. Can you imagine how unpopular they would be if they went public. They allow hundreds, maybe thousands of people to get high legally. Not to mention the illegality of their marketing concept. It is illegal in the US to market a product as a street drug alternative, making pretty much their entire store illegal. Sooo, yeah. That's why they're anonymous.

I find that whole post to be complete bs. This is not illegal at all. Just because this is being advertised as giving the same feeling as substances that are illegal in the US does not make it illegal. I

Yes, actually, it does. Look it up before disagreeing. If you want an example, Cocaine energy drink was pulled from the shelves in the US because it was being marketed as a street drug alternative, which IS illegal in the US whether it makes sense or not for it to be.

Ness wrote:

mikb261 wrote:

Ness wrote:Theres little information about these people for a good reason. Can you imagine how unpopular they would be if they went public. They allow hundreds, maybe thousands of people to get high legally. Not to mention the illegality of their marketing concept. It is illegal in the US to market a product as a street drug alternative, making pretty much their entire store illegal. Sooo, yeah. That's why they're anonymous.

I find that whole post to be complete bs. This is not illegal at all. Just because this is being advertised as giving the same feeling as substances that are illegal in the US does not make it illegal. I

Yes, actually, it does. Look it up before disagreeing. If you want an example, Cocaine energy drink was pulled from the shelves in the US because it was being marketed as a street drug alternative, which IS illegal in the US whether it makes sense or not for it to be.

I had not realized the drink had been pulled from US stores seeing as I drank it at school. According to what I read the drink stopped being sold last month.

mikb261 wrote:

Ness wrote:

mikb261 wrote: I find that whole post to be complete bs. This is not illegal at all. Just because this is being advertised as giving the same feeling as substances that are illegal in the US does not make it illegal. I

Yes, actually, it does. Look it up before disagreeing. If you want an example, Cocaine energy drink was pulled from the shelves in the US because it was being marketed as a street drug alternative, which IS illegal in the US whether it makes sense or not for it to be.

I had not realized the drink had been pulled from US stores seeing as I drank it at school. According to what I read the drink stopped being sold last month.

Then all I-Doser would have to do is change their marketing. They could call them "meditation aides", or something.

BaBoOn 101 wrote:I started out a skeptic, but there is no such thing as a placebo that powerful.

Yes, there is.

Indeed there is. Your mind can do all sorts of way out things on its own without any outside stimulus, be it drugs or binaural beats. It can easily be fooled. Take for instance mass hysteria or hypochondria. In both instances, there can be 100% zero physical or harmful stimuli working on the person/people, yet they react as if there is. During life, your mind is taught and learns to become attuned to things that it expects should be there even if they really aren't. It's how optical illusions work. It's how pareidolia works. The mind is always trying to seek out familiar patterns and algorithms, etc. that make sense to the body its contained within. The power of suggestion is a very, very strong tool. The moment that you think you can't be fooled is the moment you've already been fooled.

Dont care what they do as long as the sexual doses work xP

dietPEPSI wrote:considering i-doser is nothing but a meditation aid which "hypnotizes" you into thinking its doing something, when its not actaully doing anything....its just your mind being tricked into thinking its doing something...which is why you are feeling stuff....

Im gonna say yes.....they are laughing, mostly at the people who take this ridiculously seriously, like the people in this forum that actually think they are getting "high". and people that are saying Hand Of God changed them as a person....etc. etc.

That post is complete nonsense. If you feel it, you feel it. Whether I-Doser is pure placebo or not is totally and utterly irrelevant to the question of whether it works or not. Placebo is ridiculously powerful. Powerful enought to save and kill.

dietPEPSI wrote:

Ness wrote:

dietPEPSI wrote:considering i-doser is nothing but a meditation aid which "hypnotizes" you into thinking its doing something, when its not actaully doing anything....its just your mind being tricked into thinking its doing something...which is why you are feeling stuff....

Im gonna say yes.....they are laughing, mostly at the people who take this ridiculously seriously, like the people in this forum that actually think they are getting "high". and people that are saying Hand Of God changed them as a person....etc. etc.

That post is complete nonsense. If you feel it, you feel it. Whether I-Doser is pure placebo or not is totally and utterly irrelevant to the question of whether it works or not. Placebo is ridiculously powerful. Powerful enought to save and kill.

Oh its not?? So being a placebo which makes you think your high, while your really not, and your just feeling things because you wanna feel it so bad and tricked yourself into thinking its doing something....is the same as actually having chemicals and brainwaves altered so that you actually become high???

Im sorry but it seems to me you are one of those people that take this extremely seriosuly, and believe every word...

Stuff like the marijuana dose, tranquil, sleeping angel that makes you relaxed/tired....you think that might be because you are sitting in a dark room completely relaxed???? Im willing to bet everything I own that if you are to lay down in a dark room completely relaxed without playing any sound and believe that something is gonna happen....for 45 minutes straight without any interuptions...it'll give you the effects you feel from doses...

In fact you can name any single dose im willing to give a logical reason why you are feeling something...

and i know for a fact this message is gonna be erased because OH MY GOD HE HAS LOGICAL REASONING ON HOW THIS ENTIRE THING IS A FAKE!!!!!

Yeah but thats only for the tired ones, and of course that has something to do with it, but not completely. Your reason is the exact opposite for the stuff that energizes you and that kind of stuff

What about inhalent which freaks you out and wakes you up and french roast which wakes you up.....theres no way relaxing helps that at all

It's just can't be placebo at all, i couldn't get such trips without i-doser! And it just becomes more powerful and stronger with experience. It's definetly not " your mind tricks" when you energised so you can not sleep for 30+ hours and feel yourself absolutely awaken (when heroin) , and i have never been so paranoid and excited with hallucinations of LSD i tried!

LedZepp wrote:i couldn't get such trips without i-doser!tried!

You could if you spent years meditating and focusing your mind.

I argue with you because I don't think that is the only thing I-Doser does. Its a combination.

Changes your brainwaves to appropriate "settings" which strongly enhances the meditative states. And as for hallucinations, I agree brainwave modification alone can't produce hallucinations, but when combined with placebo (yes, placebo is a legitimate factor) and an appropriate meditative state, one could hallucinate.