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"Red Static" = HPPD! must read

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:26 am
by thehotghost
if you keep up with this forum you may have read me reporting that after using peyote this "red static" i see has remained with me ever since. i was doing some research on wikipedia and turned up the exact article i was looking for explaining it (much to my relief and partial dismay)

this is cited from the article

Another frequent cause of visual snow is hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD) following use of LSD, MDMA (ecstasy), psychedelic mushrooms or other hallucinogens. In HPPD, the symptom of visual snow has been described by Abraham (1983) as aeropsia (literally "seeing the air"). It is noteworthy that HPPD can occur after a single dose of a hallucinogen and with a considerable latency between last drug intake and onset of persistent perception disorder, so taking a thorough life-time drug history is mandatory in the diagnostic-work up of visual snow. There exists anecdotal evidence from single case observations that a variety of other illegal or prescribed drugs including cannabis, antibiotics, anti-depressants and neuroleptics may cause visual snow or other symptoms of persisting perceptual disorder, but for the time being this has not been established for any of these aforementioned classes of drugs

here is the link for the full article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_snow

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:37 pm
by DeathChronx
Holy crap! :shock: :shock: :shock: :evil:

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:17 pm
by AVL
HOLY COOL! :shock:

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:30 am
by Couch
so what's the cure?

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:42 am
by Purrtyful
I've had something similar to that for a couple of years now.. only I am not sure if it's the same thing so I'll describe it and whoever has it please tell me if it's the same? o.O

I see little dots of light only they're not red, they're white. It's not like TV static, more like when you hit a cushion and dust comes up only they're tiny dots of light and they 'appear' to go as far as the eye can see and even when my eyes aren't moving, the static still is.

Anything like yours? I've never been able to find an explanation but that HPPD sounds pretty close.. visual snow :P

*Edit: OMG I love you, I love you!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Visualsnow-80.jpg That's exactly what I seeee :D

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:54 am
by WTFMAN
Purrtyful: Even tho i have never taken drugs i have had this since i was around 6 years old, i think anyway, i thoughty it was Normal since i had it from my childhood, Dam, isnt there a cure.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:31 am
by thehotghost
from all i've read theres no cure. sometimes it can last years or go away after just a few months off the drugs... sometimes its permanent. although the drug klonopin can be use as an aid to help treat/minize the effects of it. also... when i enter a pitch black space after a few moments i begin to get this.. psychadelic light show. which is funny because i never experienced that ON the doses... haha.

also aside from just visual snow and other such visual disturbances (there are several kinds) another symptom of Hppd is "flashbacks" where you snap into a state of feeling your on a trip... your perception of reality is the same as when your on the hallucinogen.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:35 am
by deoxide
dude....
pyote never worked with me:P
muahahha
im not infected :lol:
no seriously
i hope you guys can cure this!

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:55 pm
by Couch
mabe some hard core hypnosis, if the static is just in your head. mabe they can make you think it dosn't exist or somthing

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:55 pm
by -Almost
Wait wtf. You can get this from an I-Doser Dose?!
That makes me really not want to try the Trip does and Peyote.

And that makes those doses potentially dangerous.
:shock:

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:50 am
by DeathChronx
I dunno, It doesn't have any side effect on my. I guess if just something that happends to a handful of people. @_@ :evil:

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:41 am
by sombreroflo
i don't care, im gonna try peyote anyway :P

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:22 pm
by deoxide
i had it when i whas young, but now its almost 100% gone, its nothing to worry about, its like when you have watched/staired at the sun and than you look another way, you will she dots and light bulbs, same when you stair at the sun an close you eyes....
i think its nothing to worry about that much...

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:58 pm
by sombreroflo
you have so nice "tags" can't u make one for me (A) :P

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:27 pm
by mikael
Purrtyful wrote:I've had something similar to that for a couple of years now.. only I am not sure if it's the same thing so I'll describe it and whoever has it please tell me if it's the same? o.O

I see little dots of light only they're not red, they're white. It's not like TV static, more like when you hit a cushion and dust comes up only they're tiny dots of light and they 'appear' to go as far as the eye can see and even when my eyes aren't moving, the static still is.

Anything like yours? I've never been able to find an explanation but that HPPD sounds pretty close.. visual snow :P

*Edit: OMG I love you, I love you!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Visualsnow-80.jpg That's exactly what I seeee :D

Heey,
Maybe im wrong, But do you mean this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floaters
I think i got the same, but dont much people have this?