What to do?!!

philosopher · Post by **philosopher** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:37 pm

Ok, here goes. I tried a couple of doses, followed all instructions for the environment, had my eyes closed the entire time, was in a comfortable position, had no interruption, was relaxed, focused only on the beat. Also, I used headphones of fair quality (sennheiser, except it s not the 140 but the 120 model) and used various doses up to ten times (not in a row, of course). I sensed no effect at all. Now, I AM NOT a critic and I do not believe this is science fiction because I read and pretty much understood the scientific part explained in the manual so what I want is someone to tell me if I am immune to binaural beats what does that mean? Can I change that over practice or is it hopeless? Are there any other advice which could help me? And finally which dose has the highest possibility of inducing any kind of effect? Please, if there is anyone with any information which I can use post it

whenwillitend · Post by **whenwillitend** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:15 pm

At first I had no effects (for about 20 doses), but now I have found what to focus on and how to sit/lay and what volume best suits me. What you should try is sitting in a chair that will lean back and let your head rest in some sort of way. I almost always have closed eye visual whether I notice them or not but I focus on them and the beats at the same time and take deep breaths and then everything starts to work. So just keep at it if it doesnt work then it just doesnt effect you. I like to say it only effects the weak minded but then I'm calling my self weak minded.

oja666 · Post by **oja666** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:08 am

It works on some people and not others like hypnosis. A lot of it is auto-suggestion and "whenwillitend" what you are seeings are just lights. Hypnagogia is a state before sleeping which you can achieve without idoser like when you blink repeatedly facing a bright light, shortly after some light will burn itself into your eye at this point if you focus on the image or outline of the light and continue to blink rapidly it will change shape or colour, i know it's a bad example but we can all do that without having to believe something is going to work. Idoser merely suggests what "trick" your mind will play on you, because you read the description that tells you what you think you're going to be expecting, you're also hoping to get your monies worth...

If all of the idoses work on you then that would be a bit like believing every story the papers tell.

whenwillitend · Post by **whenwillitend** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:49 am

No this is not that. I know what your talking about oja666 but this is really closed eye visuals. Plus it wasn't my money spent on it.

philosopher · Post by **philosopher** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:07 am

thx for the tips whenwillitend. I must agree with you that these are definitely not perceptive illusions, at least not in the sense that oja666 has in mind. Perceptive illusions assume that some kind of an input through senses causes the brain to interpret data in a "wrong" way while this is different in as much the brain doesn`t interpret data in a "wrong" way but in a different way because it functions differently on different frequencies. It would be the same to say that dreams are illusions, which could be said but then that would be simplifying things. As for what you said about the weak minded, I`d say it`s quite the opposite because you need extreme focus and concentration and will power to sinchronize your brain wave`s frequency to the frequency you`re hearing so I would say that the people who can`t do that are the weak minded

. Or at least in my opinion

whenwillitend · Post by **whenwillitend** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:53 am

Ahh, yes I guess your right. Did you have any more success?

oja666 · Post by **oja666** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:33 pm

The way i mean weak minded is quite simple, there is no such thing as mind control yet you believe this program to be able to change your perception and awareness of your surroundings and sights. By having a success with this program you are believing that this program is capable of mind control yet we all know that is not possible. You are doing this all yourself idoser is like a crutch for those that don't realise it is possible to walk without.

whenwillitend · Post by **whenwillitend** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:48 pm

You can believe what ever you want because you have probably had no feelings or success from any of the doses but I have so many now so I completely believe in this program. It's not mind-control the science behind it is completely different. I have the best success when I take my hydrocodone or oxycodone. It REALLY enhances the high.

So oja666, just because you are one of the few who don't have success doesn't mean you can knock on i-doser.

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