What should I try first?

cameraboirzu · Post by **cameraboirzu** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:43 pm

kilik392 wrote:Yeah, I know about trances. I read around about them, most posts by you. I try my best to get into trances, I count backwards, but I find that that doesn't work too well for me. Sometimes I think about other things, random things, and it'll feel like my mind's drifting away from my body.

Oh, and congratz on 400 posts, Camera.

Trances can be difficult because if you consciously try to trance, you will not trance. Usually if you notice your counting slow down, or you start to count wrong (98, 95, 85, 48) you may want to let your thoughts drift away because you may be starting to trance.

And thank you! Surprisingly most of those posts were answers to questions, and important comments; not fluff to make my count higher. Just want to help out

kilik392 · Post by **kilik392** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:58 am

Yeah, I'm terrible at counting backwards, but I can manage, but eventually I start to get all weird with it, 600, 599, 598, 597, 596 - 575, then I somehow bounce up to 598.
What dose should I try next? I've tried MarijuanaQH three times so far, and it worked pretty well each time, even without me laying down, or closing my eyes, or counting backwards.

xcadaverx666 · Post by **xcadaverx666** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:23 am

kilik392 wrote:Yeah, I'm terrible at counting backwards, but I can manage, but eventually I start to get all weird with it, 600, 599, 598, 597, 596 - 575, then I somehow bounce up to 598.
What dose should I try next? I've tried MarijuanaQH three times so far, and it worked pretty well each time, even without me laying down, or closing my eyes, or counting backwards.

what types of doses are you interested in? if you like the marijuanaQH a lot then possibly try to the hashQH? or maybe you want to feel a downer or maybe an upper? im not sure what your interests are but if i were you i would try something probably like a cocaineQH or maybe a heroinQH just something different to mix it up (;

kilik392 · Post by **kilik392** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:32 am

xcadaverx666 wrote:
kilik392 wrote:Yeah, I'm terrible at counting backwards, but I can manage, but eventually I start to get all weird with it, 600, 599, 598, 597, 596 - 575, then I somehow bounce up to 598.
What dose should I try next? I've tried MarijuanaQH three times so far, and it worked pretty well each time, even without me laying down, or closing my eyes, or counting backwards.
what types of doses are you interested in? if you like the marijuanaQH a lot then possibly try to the hashQH? or maybe you want to feel a downer or maybe an upper? im not sure what your interests are but if i were you i would try something probably like a cocaineQH or maybe a heroinQH just something different to mix it up (;

Well, I'm interested in nearly anything. Upper sounds quite nice. Lol. HashQH sounds like a good idea, and I've tried cocaineQH. Still need to try HeroinQH, though. Maybe that one soon, too.

cameraboirzu · Post by **cameraboirzu** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:07 am

If you're getting effects, its just trial, error and experimentation from here on. If you want to try a stimulant you try a stimulant, and if you don't like it move to depressants, and if you still don't like depressants there are a billion other doses to choose from. So its all really personal preference and what you want to feel.

DYLX2100 · Post by **DYLX2100** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:21 am

hi guys. just did the cocaine QH.
got my first results with this!

at first i found it really hard to keep my mind focused on the beats,
but i think im only getting better after seeing/feeling the results i just did!

i could tell the dose was beginning to work when my body was having warm flushes flow throughout, and small sparks of energy, my eyelids began fluttering.
i'm sure these are just mild effects of what the cocaine QH is capable of but i still feel good :]

anyone recomend what i should try next, should i keep with the cocaine QH or move on?
real keen on getting to the hallucinogenics!

cameraboirzu · Post by **cameraboirzu** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:47 pm

DYLX2100 wrote:hi guys. just did the cocaine QH.
got my first results with this!

at first i found it really hard to keep my mind focused on the beats,
but i think im only getting better after seeing/feeling the results i just did!

i could tell the dose was beginning to work when my body was having warm flushes flow throughout, and small sparks of energy, my eyelids began fluttering.
i'm sure these are just mild effects of what the cocaine QH is capable of but i still feel good :]

anyone recomend what i should try next, should i keep with the cocaine QH or move on?
real keen on getting to the hallucinogenics!

Thats usually the expected effects of the CocaineQH dose. I'm usually finishing the dose with twitching hands and legs, along with fluttering eyelids and I sometimes get warm, but not always. It sounds like you expected it to be like actual cocaine or something. It doesn't come that close. Its more like having the energy of 5 cups of coffee for about 20 minutes. However, I have had the effects last longer (up to 40 minutes)

You could do CocaineQH a couple more times. Its just what you wan't to do; like I said, if one day your in the mood for CocaineQH, then use it. Another day you may wan't to just relax, and then you use Anestesia or Downer.

Hallucinogenics for I-Doser can be tricky. Different doses do different things, and there are a lot of factors (can you trance, what do you want to experience, have you used actual hallucinogens before?)

If you would like to trance the Trip dose always aids getting into a trance for me, but you could trance with many doses. If you dont trance with Trip, you may get closed eye visuals. Post dose you may sit up, and you may feel different, get audio distortions, and percieve things around you differently.

Open eyed hallucinations are tricky as well, because in most cases if you have not used actual hallucinogenics your brain is not conditioned to create a hallucinogenic experience based on sounds.

A lot of factors come into play. Just respond if you have any questions. I'll probably be able to assist.

kilik392 · Post by **kilik392** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:13 am

So, I tried AnesthesiaQH. Knocked me straight out, wasn't even tired and I fell right asleep. Woke up about 10 mins after the dose ended, got up and went to bed. I don't remember feeling any numbness or anything, but it knocking me out was pretty sweet. I'm thinking of trying Lucid Dream soon, because that sounds really nice.

cameraboirzu · Post by **cameraboirzu** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:02 pm

kilik392 wrote:So, I tried AnesthesiaQH. Knocked me straight out, wasn't even tired and I fell right asleep. Woke up about 10 mins after the dose ended, got up and went to bed. I don't remember feeling any numbness or anything, but it knocking me out was pretty sweet. I'm thinking of trying Lucid Dream soon, because that sounds really nice.

Thats just how you must have responded to the dose at that particular time. Maybe next time you try you won't be able to fall asleep. Thats what makes I-Doser so much fun.

Don't expect Lucid Dreams to work on your first try. It may take some conditioning. However, if you manage to have lucid dreams your first go, then you should come back and tell us how your dreams went

kilik392 · Post by **kilik392** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:31 am

Definitely gonna try LucidQH (since I'm not patient at all) tonight. I'll tell you what, if anything happens.

cameraboirzu · Post by **cameraboirzu** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:03 am

I have been lucid one time. It was not a bad experience, but not good either. I didn't particularly enjoy it.

I'm honestly afraid to LD because I hear people with bad experiences all the time. There's to many people with beleifs I really don't support doing it too. I'd hate to be grouped with them

kilik392 · Post by **kilik392** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:03 pm

cameraboirzu wrote:I have been lucid one time. It was not a bad experience, but not good either. I didn't particularly enjoy it.

I'm honestly afraid to LD because I hear people with bad experiences all the time. There's to many people with beleifs I really don't support doing it too. I'd hate to be grouped with them

What beliefs do you mean?

Tried LucidQH... I regret it.
Had a horrible nightmare. I don't know if I want to try again, but I'm pretty sure I shouldn't...

cameraboirzu · Post by **cameraboirzu** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:13 pm

Oh, just the stereotypical vegetarian mother, who doesn't let their kid play video games, watch TV, or talk to other people for fear of negative energy.

Just, those kind of people who beleive that everything has energy to it, and everything is Chi or that.

420master · Post by **420master** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:18 am

cameraboirzu wrote:Oh, just the stereotypical vegetarian mother, who doesn't let their kid play video games, watch TV, or talk to other people for fear of negative energy.

Just, those kind of people who beleive that everything has energy to it, and everything is Chi or that.

Dude dont be a jackass, im vegetarian and so is my mother and I nor does my mom do any of that freaky Chi shit. you yourself said it was a stereotype so no need to get all talkitive about it or use it as an insult to someone

cameraboirzu · Post by **cameraboirzu** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:42 am

Wasn't meant to be an insult. If I insult anyone they'll know it. My father is vegetarian. What I'm trying to say is, the people who do beleive in the chi stuff I don't associate myself with. Doesn't mean ALL vegetarians are like that. My father doesn't think astral travel is even possible.

I mostly think that lucid dreams are only a product if the persons mind. If anyone disagrees and think we can all meet in some sort of dream realm, fine. They have their views, I have mine.

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