Need advice on doses/technique. All comments are appreciate!

[Crater7]

Hello dosers! This is my first post on this forum. But do not take me as a newbie to I-Doser.
I have tried to get I-Doser to work for a VERY long time! I have tried everything people say works for them. I’ve read all of the great posts out there about how to do it and followed them very well. I am not doing anything wrong, i can assure you. I go in with a mindset of “hey this could be it” so I’m not forcing it out with my head. I think my problem is that I am hardcore inattentive ADD (which means i can't concentrate enough on the dose) and also that I'm highly resistant to binaural beats. I have tried countless doses (at least 100 to 200 times). But I haven’t been jumping around from dose to dose...In other words I’ve stuck with trying one dose for over 15 times without using any others and it doesn’t improve

So… to describe what I feel in doses…
The one that works most consistently is Peyote. It makes my whole body feel numb. But that’s it…
Nitrous worked the first time, but very slightly. and it doesn't work now
On some like white crosses (on occasion) I get 10 seconds of euphoria, maybe twice in one dose. But that soon fades away…
Everything just has effects that are completely un-mentionable such as feeling SLIGHTLY numb/more awake/tingly…
This is pretty much the extent of my experience.

My prep for dosing is-
-I eat until full and relieve any other daily needs (like going to the bathroom)
-I make my whole body relaxed and comforted with anything such as a warm shower, ect.
-I make sure I’m wearing comfortable clothing, and then I go into my room, close my blinds, shut the door, and turn off all lights/clocks.
-I get in my bed facing up and laying flat, and I use some method of covering my eyes to completely block out any other light that may get through the blinds (like having my sheets cover my eyes, a couple inches above). I make sure my bed is comfortable.
-I leave my eyes open, but sometimes I close them. It does not matter to me.
-obviously, there is no sound except the sound of a ceiling fan on low, which get drowned out by the white noise in the dose anyways.

My method for dosing is-
-eyes open or closed (complete darkness either way), I begin counting down from a random number (between 500-1000). As I count, I say out the number in my mind, and to further clear my mind (because I’m ADD and its difficult) I draw out each number in my mind. And imagine it in front of me. If I ever run out I just start over at another random number. I normally choose higher numbers for long doses and if I’m doing something like nitrous then I choose a lower number
-I control my breathing in and out while I count. And I let the music sink in deep. This will give me a constant effect (such as numbness using peyote). Sometimes while I get REALLY into it, I will get like 10 seconds of euphoria (as mentioned above) but that’s about it.

I am really disappointed in the way I-doser affects me. Especially since my older brother has never had problems with it working at all… he can lay on a couch in a bright room with people talking and loud noises and it still works like a charm for him (I’ve tried this… no effect, whatsoever)
So I’m really just asking for ANY advice at all. Whether its advice on my prep, or my method.
I also want to ask everyone what the best and strongest doses are for me to kick-start the effectiveness of I-Doser on me.

Any comments are greatly appreciated!

P.S. I think that new people will find this method very effective as most of my friends have, even though it doesn't work well for me.

***edit*** i use 'Piiq' headphones. they are very nice quality. just in case you guys were wondering.
links- http://discover.sonystyle.com/piiq/inde ... uct/giiq-1
You can view the specifications from this page if that interests you- http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/sto ... ifications -Just click on the 'specifications' tab

[Yuki Sorrelwood]

I have two things to say, one don't count try to mimic the sound in your head, it will cause you to focus on the track more, I have ADHD and the tracks work like a charm for me.
Second you may totally resistant to binaural beats, sorry

[Crater7]

I have two things to say, one don't count try to mimic the sound in your head, it will cause you to focus on the track more, I have ADHD and the tracks work like a charm for me.
Second you may totally resistant to binaural beats, sorry

Well, the reason I count is so that I can clear my mind of all other thoughts. So I’m trying to occupy my mind with a menial task, such as counting, so that the beats can sink it... if I merely mimic the sound in my head I end up also thinking about things while I do so.

And I'm not ADHD... I'm inattentive ADD. People don't seem to know the difference. If you’re really hyper then that doesn't affect you as much as me being really inattentive. (plus, people often get misdiagnosed with ADHD but I defiantly wasn’t. my doctor has “never seen such a strong case”)

And I know I’m not totally resistant. Because I still get effects from it for short periods of time and some passive effects for the whole dose…Thanks for the advice tho.. I'll try mimicing the sound and see if that works... But I just wanted to get this ADD thing cleared up.

Please! Anyone else with advice! Share it! All post are appreciated! But please try to answer all of the questions

[Yuki Sorrelwood]

Yes I do understand that ADHD is very different from ADD, but they share one common thing, both of us have a hard time focusing, I have written several papers on both ADHD and ADD, I was not saying that we are the same.

Have you tried listening to condition before each dose?
I have also found that if I have had trouble with a dose before that if I listen to reset then condition then the dose that my chances of the dose working go up by as much as 40%. I think this works due to the fact that your brain is set to the alpha zone after reset which is an easy zone for condition to work with.

I would love to hear back from you after you try these. We can keep working until we find something that works.

[Crater7]

Yes I do understand that ADHD is very different from ADD, but they share one common thing, both of us have a hard time focusing, I have written several papers on both ADHD and ADD, I was not saying that we are the same.

Have you tried listening to condition before each dose?
I have also found that if I have had trouble with a dose before that if I listen to reset then condition then the dose that my chances of the dose working go up by as much as 40%. I think this works due to the fact that your brain is set to the alpha zone after reset which is an easy zone for condition to work with.

I would love to hear back from you after you try these. We can keep working until we find something that works.

No.... I haven't tried that! I'll try that as soon as I get a chance too. I will defiantly post some feedback when I try it. Hopefully it works!
And sorry I assumed you were like others...You can never know here on the internet
Also, do you take medication for your ADHD? If so then what do you take? And does it affect your dosing?
Thank you so much for you help! I really do appreciate it! (Even though it may not sound like it )

[Yuki Sorrelwood]

Don't worry,
I dont take any medication, the last time I did was over 4 years ago. Try following this chart
Dose 2 hours before your medication
Dose right after your medication
Dose 2 hours after your medication
Dose 5 hours after your medication
Dose 12 hours after your medication

This chart will help you see if taking your medication will effect you in any way, it will also show you how long after your medication you will need to wait before dosing. After each dose and you should use the same same dose write down if you feel any effects and how long the lasted.

[Crater7]

I am starting to get them to work by using an obscure method I could not explain.. I thought I would update you real quick and tell you that I haven't given up! I'm about to try astral right after condition... I hope it works!

[Yuki Sorrelwood]

Sweet

[owlmaid]

It sounds like you've already got great advice, my only suggestion is what helps me sometimes is doing a dose when I'm already really tired so not as many thoughts are going through my head.

[Crater7]

Ok so I tried astral and it didn't work I felt kind of numbish/like I was floating. Sadly, that was the extent of it. But isn't astral pretty hard to get working?

It sounds like you've already got great advice, my only suggestion is what helps me sometimes is doing a dose when I'm already really tired so not as many thoughts are going through my head.

Yeah I do doses a lot while I'm tired.. As long as I don't fall asleep, they work slightly better. But not much.

[kennethnelson99]

I have two things to say, one don't count try to mimic the sound in your head, it will cause you to focus on the track more, I have ADHD and the tracks work like a charm for me.
Second you may totally resistant to binaural beats, sorry

Well, the reason I count is so that I can clear my mind of all other thoughts. So I’m trying to occupy my mind with a menial task, such as counting, so that the beats can sink it... if I merely mimic the sound in my head I end up also thinking about things while I do so.

And I'm not ADHD... I'm inattentive ADD. People don't seem to know the difference. If you’re really hyper then that doesn't affect you as much as me being really inattentive. (plus, people often get misdiagnosed with ADHD but I defiantly wasn’t. my doctor has “never seen such a strong case”)

And I know I’m not totally resistant. Because I still get effects from it for short periods of time and some passive effects for the whole dose…Thanks for the advice tho.. I'll try mimicing the sound and see if that works... But I just wanted to get this ADD thing cleared up.

Please! Anyone else with advice! Share it! All post are appreciated! But please try to answer all of the questions

[kennethnelson99]

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[kennethnelson99]

Don't worry,
I dont take any medication, the last time I did was over 4 years ago. Try following this chart
Dose 2 hours before your medication
Dose right after your medication
Dose 2 hours after your medication
Dose 5 hours after your medication
Dose 12 hours after your medication

This chart will help you see if taking your medication will effect you in any way, it will also show you how long after your medication you will need to wait before dosing. After each dose and you should use the same same dose write down if you feel any effects and how long the lasted.

[kennethnelson99]

Hello dosers! This is my first post on this forum. But do not take me as a newbie to I-Doser.
I have tried to get I-Doser to work for a VERY long time! I have tried everything people say works for them. I’ve read all of the great posts out there about how to do it and followed them very well. I am not doing anything wrong, i can assure you. I go in with a mindset of “hey this could be it” so I’m not forcing it out with my head. I think my problem is that I am hardcore inattentive ADD (which means i can't concentrate enough on the dose) and also that I'm highly resistant to binaural beats. I have tried countless doses (at least 100 to 200 times). But I haven’t been jumping around from dose to dose...In other words I’ve stuck with trying one dose for over 15 times without using any others and it doesn’t improve

So… to describe what I feel in doses…
The one that works most consistently is Peyote. It makes my whole body feel numb. But that’s it…
Nitrous worked the first time, but very slightly. and it doesn't work now
On some like white crosses (on occasion) I get 10 seconds of euphoria, maybe twice in one dose. But that soon fades away…
Everything just has effects that are completely un-mentionable such as feeling SLIGHTLY numb/more awake/tingly…
This is pretty much the extent of my experience.

My prep for dosing is-
-I eat until full and relieve any other daily needs (like going to the bathroom)
-I make my whole body relaxed and comforted with anything such as a warm shower, ect.
-I make sure I’m wearing comfortable clothing, and then I go into my room, close my blinds, shut the door, and turn off all lights/clocks.
-I get in my bed facing up and laying flat, and I use some method of covering my eyes to completely block out any other light that may get through the blinds (like having my sheets cover my eyes, a couple inches above). I make sure my bed is comfortable.
-I leave my eyes open, but sometimes I close them. It does not matter to me.
-obviously, there is no sound except the sound of a ceiling fan on low, which get drowned out by the white noise in the dose anyways.

My method for dosing is-
-eyes open or closed (complete darkness either way), I begin counting down from a random number (between 500-1000). As I count, I say out the number in my mind, and to further clear my mind (because I’m ADD and its difficult) I draw out each number in my mind. And imagine it in front of me. If I ever run out I just start over at another random number. I normally choose higher numbers for long doses and if I’m doing something like nitrous then I choose a lower number
-I control my breathing in and out while I count. And I let the music sink in deep. This will give me a constant effect (such as numbness using peyote). Sometimes while I get REALLY into it, I will get like 10 seconds of euphoria (as mentioned above) but that’s about it.

I am really disappointed in the way I-doser affects me. Especially since my older brother has never had problems with it working at all… he can lay on a couch in a bright room with people talking and loud noises and it still works like a charm for him (I’ve tried this… no effect, whatsoever)
So I’m really just asking for ANY advice at all. Whether its advice on my prep, or my method.
I also want to ask everyone what the best and strongest doses are for me to kick-start the effectiveness of I-Doser on me.

Any comments are greatly appreciated!

P.S. I think that new people will find this method very effective as most of my friends have, even though it doesn't work well for me.

***edit*** i use 'Piiq' headphones. they are very nice quality. just in case you guys were wondering.
links- http://discover.sonystyle.com/piiq/inde ... uct/giiq-1
You can view the specifications from this page if that interests you- http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/sto ... ifications -Just click on the 'specifications' tab

[GameFreak2151]

i saw a comment that said u mite be immune lmao u cant usualy b immune most doses dont work for me only some do just close ur eyes relax and (like some1 already said) mimic the sounds if it doesnt work try another or redo it with practice comes accomplishment


ps im only 13 have ADD and i can still concentrate