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Highdroponics · Post by **Highdroponics** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:01 pm

i think this would be a great dose myself...LSA is somewhat similar to LSD but with some differences.

my evaluation of the experience is as follows.

body high - similar to a mixture of LSD MDMA but with more of an opium feeling to it, you get warm and very 'dopey' , you get leg cramps and most of the time nausea.

Mind high- this is VERY similar to LSD, paranoia, feeling of empathy, giggly, etc.

visuals - not very big on visuals, but things look 'weird' i just experienced this for the first time the other night (hawaiian baby woodrose seeds) and just looking at the sky, the clouds, and later on, the stars, i felt as if the universe was connected to me, and everything just looked as if i could reach out and grab it somehow, stars were brighter, clouds were more 'alive', trees looked as if they were able to just jump out of the ground and get me.

LSA is less potent than LSD(by weight of course), but dont take this for granted, they are two VERY different experiences and both have their good points to them. i would definitely say that if you ever wanted to try either of these substances, LSD would be the first choice, LSA is harder to handle than LSD because of its intense body high, i caught myself saying before i went to sleep that night "let me off" "let me off this damn ride", but yet after the experience was over i enjoyed it just as much as i have enjoyed LSD in the past.

for more information on this substance, do not hesitate to use www.erowid.org , there is plenty of useful information on that site for just about any drug you plan to make a dose for in the future, the trip reports is most likely where you will want to start.

Beanmaster · Post by **Beanmaster** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:05 pm

LSA is just like LSD, its nearly the same chemical.
LSA is just weaker, but "hurts" more (headache, vomit)

f12button · Post by **f12button** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:27 am

The only reason you vomit from LSA is because the means of getting it into your system (morning glory seeds) are usually treated with chemicals made so that you'll have a bad experience taking it and not want to do it again.

Beanmaster · Post by **Beanmaster** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:00 pm

Since there are two LSD-25 doses (LSD/ACID) you can take one for LSD and one ofr LSA.
I don't know wich of them is weaker, but you should try

Highdroponics · Post by **Highdroponics** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:58 pm

LSA is definitely not like LSD, ive experienced both of these chemicals first hand plenty of times, in fact im getting ahold of some LSD tonight, ive also experienced LSH, a chemical synthesized from LSA which is almost identical to LSD. the reason you vomit, get tired, and get cramps/headaches is because of the other bad chemicals in the seeds, LSA purified will give you a bit of body load but will not make you vomit/give you nausea(ive never personally vomited on LSA), ive found this out with simple extraction using petroleum ether to get the bad stuff out and then ethenol to purify the LSA.

f12button · Post by **f12button** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:05 pm

I used cold water extraction to extract LSA, it worked with minimal nausea, very pleasant trip, an INTENSE understanding of the universe, i swear.

I've experienced both, and found that LSA was actually a lot like LSD, but less intense. But i took a small dose of LSD, about 150.

In my experience, they're both similar enough to be the same dose, if taken through i-doser. There'd be no point to paying for both LSA and LSD doses, besides a good way for i-doser to make money

Beanmaster · Post by **Beanmaster** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:28 am

They are like the same, only LSA is weaker.
It can't be a big difference, since the chemical is like the same.

Highdroponics · Post by **Highdroponics** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:39 pm

nope definitely not...the chemicals are similar but go to www.erowid.org and compare both the LSA and LSD molecules and you will find out why they are not the same. people that just say LSA is just like LSD but weaker dont know what they are talking about...if thats how you happened to get the information. for one the visuals are completely different from LSD, the body high is sort of like LSD but more like a mixture of MDMA and opium(makes you feel like shit most of the time, but you also wont be able to keep your hands off of yourself) the mind high is almost exactly like LSD though, i havent found much difference in this area.

Beanmaster · Post by **Beanmaster** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:58 pm

There are enough studies about it.
The LSD 25 structure doens't differs that much from LSA 25.
Someone with really good chemical skills can make LSA 25 to LSD 25.
Tests in 1974 the small difference.

Btw, YOU don't know what you are talking about.
If you would, you wouldn't go to Erowid, since it has often wrong/old informations

Highdroponics · Post by **Highdroponics** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:15 pm

like i said this all from first hand experience, ive been experimenting with both these drugs. and i know erowid is not very good, thats why i said look at the molecules, those are correct, and so are the trip reports. i do know that LSA could be turned into LSD but the synthesis will turn out at only 50% successful(half will be LSD the other half will be LSH or something similar), thats why chemists use ergot instead.

Beanmaster · Post by **Beanmaster** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:50 am

It can made into LSD-25, but it is impossible to make it as home.
Don't belive the stories from making LSD in you bathtube, you have to go into a laboratory

Highdroponics · Post by **Highdroponics** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:13 pm

yeah i know that much lol, ive got a few synthesis teks on how to make it(just to have them, never plan to use them), it requires too much knowledge and equipment for the every day person...its pretty much required that you go to school to become a chemist.

Beanmaster · Post by **Beanmaster** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:33 pm

I think this teks are the fake ones, they went 2000 trough the net