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is this mind control?

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:02 am
by memberya2
ok now my friend has brang this question up and im starting to wonder know. is the static white noise in the sounds are mind control with subliminal messeges? im posting a poll of what people think and im wondering what people will post about it. i dont know if it is mind control but im wondering if anyone else has had the same question or ever wondered. because subliminal messeges can be hidden in white noise.

EDIT: it wouldnt let me post a poll.

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:37 am
by kidrauhl
First of all, even without subliminal messages, i-Doser is already "mind control". That's the whole point of it, to control your state of mind/bodily feelings.

The regular doses (the long ones with no ambient music) are 100% free of subliminal messages. Any voices you may think you're hearing are due to a fairly normal occurence called "electronic voice phenomenon", where your brain thinks it hears voices in electronic sound where they don't actually exist.

The MP3/CD/iPhone doses (with the ambient music) are a different story. Some of them do have voices and sounds that could be perceived as subliminal messages. But they're intentional, they're not bad or a scandal or anything, they're intended to help you feel the feelings of the dose.

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:02 pm
by Ordinator
Yeah i was thinking the same thing (mind control), but my opinion is that they might be, with all of the doses, synchronizing our brains to one single frequency so they can use us as an army once the ww3 begin. we are becoming slaves without knowing about it :-D just another conspiracy theory

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:06 pm
by cameraboirzu
No.

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:59 pm
by Bloodbane424
There are so many things wrong with that theory I am not even going to bother.

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:38 am
by Beatriz
omg I'm a begginer and I JUST wondered about that when I first listened.

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:06 pm
by Th3_uN1Qu3
Nah, no way. I sometimes mix my own binaural beats, what would that qualify as, self-mind-control? Hahaha. :P

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:07 pm
by Tyrulan
Actually the whole process is more akin to brainwashing.

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:07 pm
by murdurnachos
it would make sense, personaly i want to get f**ked up off idoser but never got anything from it yet, but if it was mind control it would make sense, "hey we gotta brain wash the people, i know lets tell them its drugs, then lots of people will listen to the message". BAM mass mind control. :twisted:

But i could just as easily be wrong :?

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:04 pm
by Tyrulan
Mind control and brainwashing are not the same thing.

Mind control implies a certain reluctance to do whatever is being asked. One is forced to carry out a task, by power of mind.

In brainwashing, the subject sees the task in a new perspective and defends its image as if it were one's own.

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:40 pm
by kidrauhl
Please explain how binaural beats could transfer a subliminal message?

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:32 pm
by Tyrulan
kidrauhl wrote:Please explain how binaural beats could transfer a subliminal message?
It cannot. I-Doser does have a disclaimer that insists all users should inform themselves as to how binaural beats work. It mentions that the technology is advanced but we do not understand the brain well enough to make conclusions.

The consensus as to how beats work is that they modulate your brainwaves' frequency and allow them to move from one phase to another. After a dose however, your brain will return to its normal alpha phase and the effects you may have felt will wear off nearly immediately. (Unless you train yourself otherwise.)

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:23 pm
by kidrauhl
Tyrulan wrote:
kidrauhl wrote:Please explain how binaural beats could transfer a subliminal message?
It cannot. I-Doser does have a disclaimer that insists all users should inform themselves as to how binaural beats work. It mentions that the technology is advanced but we do not understand the brain well enough to make conclusions.

The consensus as to how beats work is that they modulate your brainwaves' frequency and allow them to move from one phase to another. After a dose however, your brain will return to its normal alpha phase and the effects you may have felt will wear off nearly immediately. (Unless you train yourself otherwise.)
I know. I was being sarcastic. Thanks for writing that anyway, for the benefit of the uneducated people who think I-Doser uses telepathic signals or something.

Re: is this mind control?

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:17 pm
by Tyrulan
Ah. Right. xD No problem!